BREAKING NEWS -- Scozzafava drops out, Conservatives Win in NY 23

from RedState.com

Dede Scozzafava has dropped out of the NY-23 race. In her statement, she said

I hereby release those individuals who have endorsed and supported my campaign to transfer their support as they see fit to do so. I am and have always been a proud Republican. It is my hope that with my actions today, my Party will emerge stronger and our District and our nation can take an important step towards restoring the enduring strength and economic prosperity that has defined us for generations.

Comments

[Steve]

Scozzafava should have endorsed Hoffman. Hoffman said he will caucus with the Republicans - he's the only Republican left in the race.

That's the true definition of a RINO: doesn't believe in Republican principles, won't support Republican candidates and won't advance the Republican cause. Their only concern is getting themselves elected.

[Cook County delegate]

The point is ... why can't we do this in Illinois? Why can't conservatives get their act together behind one candidate in the US Senate race and push out Mark Kirk?

[Greg Griffin]

Good idea CC delegate. Let's all get behind Wallace and scare the hell out of the lunatic lefties.

[BillyBoy]

Amen on that. Conservatives here need to throw their support behind the BEST candidate, and that's Dr. Eric Wallace.

So why can't we unite? We did back in 2002 when Pat O'Malley was the consensus choice. Unfortunately, since then, we have a large faction of conservatives in Illinois who decided about six years ago or so that the way to "win" is simply to recruit a complete unknown, inexperienced political novice “outsider” as long as they have the most money to spend. Worked wonders for Jim Oberweis and Michael Huffington, right? I have yet to see them produce one “winner” but they keep beating this dead horse “wealthy outsider” idea election cycle after election cycle.

Let's see how the whole "money = victory" thing worked out in NY-23.

MONEY RAISED
Bill Owens (Democrat) $502,197
Dede Scuzzyliberal (RINO) $233,583
Doug Hoffman (Conservative) $205,139

Maybe, just maybe, some Illinois conservatives should rethink their strategy after running half a dozen losers who had zillions of dollars to outspend everyone.

Yes, you DO need to raise a decent amount of money to be competitive (if you have $150 in the bank you’re not going to get above single digits), but simply having the MOST money does not automatically make you the strongest candidate and most likely to win, nor does it make you the best choice.

[spintreebob]

3 thingsin politics:
1. Money
2. People
3. The brains to know what to do with the first two. This last one is what we most often lack. Even in our "win", Peter Fitzgerald, most of the millions spent was not spent effectively and was wasted (except for that one ad with his cute kid).

The difference betwen Peter and Salvi was the work done for Peter by the building trades unions. It had zero to do with pro-life/choice and zero to do with pro-gun/control. Yet the ideologues stupidly insist it is all about ideology.

[Valerie]

I am interested in supporting Wallace but I don't know how he measures up regarding those "3 things."

So how much money hs Wallace raised? Is he able to fund a campaign as needed? Anyone know?

What about grassroots support and a campaign organization? Who is managing Wallace's campaign? Does he have a good number of supporters working for him?

[Spirit]

Wallace measures up very well, and of course he could use more money.

He has a state wide base of very loyal supporters and these numbers are growing every day wherever he goes.

What sets him apart from the rest of the field is his grasp of the issues. He breaks them down to the lowest common denominator where the average voter can come to grips with what is going on in D.C. and how that effects them and their families on a daily basis.

[got healthcare?]

There you go again. You're supporting a candidate because he is anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage. But he is in no shape or fashion a fiscal conservative. Took in a lot of pork where is at now.

Any one who is Conservative or Republican will win in this district its been that way since 1860. She did you a HUGE favor. Had the vote remained split the Democrat could have taken it.

Honestly though.. Electorally this kind of candidate will never win a national election. Some in the media are speculating that is exactly what Obama wants.. little pockets of local conservatives (only 3 Republicans in the NY Delegation of 29) and a very weakened Republican brand...

wake up.

[Mensa]

Paging Mr. Newt...

"During the day Saturday, she began to quietly and thoughtfully encourage her supporters to vote for Democrat William L. Owens."
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091101/OPINION01/311019918/-1/OPINION

Is this an act of a true republican?

[Louis G. Atsaves]

Wait? Let me get this straight? Hoffman is a third party candidate and not a Republican?

[Sam Pierce]

Louis,

Are you and "got healthcare" teaming up now?

[Louis G. Atsaves]

Sam, answer my question. What party is Hoffman running with?

[Steve]

Scozzafava just endorsed the Democrat, Bill Owens. Absolutely pathetic. I would just like to refer people back to the first comment in this thread.

Now Louis, what party's candidate is the "Republican nominee" supporting?

[Louis G Atsaves]

I do not know much about the candidates and the district other than it has been Republican for ages.

Now thanks to an ugly primary race that will change.

We never learn.

[?]

It's an interesting race to watch and learn from, but it doesn't set precedent for every race.

[Steve]

You're right. Some people may never learn. The Republican committeeman in NY-23 went against their base and appointed a candidate so left of center, Dede Scozzafava, she was literally endorsed by the Daily Kos. Independents and Republicans flocked to the conservative candidate, Hoffman, in droves.

Scozzafava drops out and in true RINO fashion, endorses the Democrat.

Hoffman is going to win on Tuesday in a district Obama carried. That's the lesson you need to learn from.

[Sam Pierce]

Louis,

Hoffman is running on the ticket of the Conservative Party, because the Republican candidate was so atrocious.

?,

Of course it doesn't set a precedent for every race, although it would be great if it did and Mark Kirk could be sent packing!

[Right From the Start]

Yeah, Louis, some people never learn. Get conservatives to support the RINO Arlen Spectre over a true conservative like Pat Toomey and a few years later Spectre is with the Democrats and Toomey is still the one who will have to work to give Republicans an actual win. Try to jam a liberal RINO down peoples throats in New York and she ends up endorsing the Democrat. Elect Rinos and they take pride in lining up trying to win favor from Obama, Reid and Pelosi when they don't just openly endorse and work for Democrats.
Are you starting to learn, Louis? Or are you one of those people who never learn?

[Johnny D.]

Louis -

Remember that we're talking here about New York, which has an unusual (though brilliant and effective) party arrangement: candidates can and do run on more than one ballot simultaneously if they want to.

The Constitution Libertarian parties that we have in Illinois are true third parties, and must not be confused with the New York situation at all. They're completely different arrangements.

The Conservative Party of New York does elect members to Albany, and has even elected a member to the US Senate once.

Their program is to be the conscience of the GOP in New York. They normally support the Republicans, and only run against a Republican in those occasions when the GOP runs a nightmarishly bad RINO like Scozzafava.

When elected, the Conservatives ALWAYS caucus with the Republicans.

So, when Hoffman wins, it will be a win for conservatives and a win for the GOP. Far more so, in fact, than if the GOP's appointed candidate, Scozzafava, had won the race, because Hoffman will vote with the GOP party platform, while Scozzafava would have voted for the GOP on the construction vote, and precious little else.

JFD

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I do not know much about the candidates and the district other than it has been Republican for ages.

Now thanks to an ugly primary race that will change. We never learn.

Posted by: Louis G Atsaves | Sunday, November 01, 2009 at 03:26 PM
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You're half right, which is better than usual for you. YOU will never learn. We - conservatives - actually learned quite a bit.

For instance, if you put up a conservative next to a liberal Republican, all of the conservatives and some of the Republicans will vote for the conservative, leaving only liberal Republicans to vote along party lines like dunces.

Then we learned that when a liberal Republican is exposed, they give their money and support to Democrats. Remember this scenario when little Marky Kirk decides that abortion, hate crimes nonsense, illegal alien amnesty, tax and spend boondoggles and gun control are all more important to him than fiscal restraint.