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Thursday, January 10, 2008

Top 10 reasons Obama voted against the Illinois Born Alive Infant Protection Act

by Jill Stanek

Here are the top 10 reasons Barack Obama has variously stated why he voted against Illinois' Born Alive Infant Protection Act when state senator.

10. Babies who survive their abortions are not protected by the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution. Speaking against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act on the IL Senate floor on March 30, 2001, Obama, the sole verbal opponent to the bill stated:

... I just want to suggest... that this is probably not going to survive constitutional scrutiny.

Number one, whenever we define a previable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a - child, a nine-month-old - child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place.

I mean, it - it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an antiabortion statute. For that purpose, I think it would probably be found unconstitutional.

9. A ban to stop aborted babies from being shelved to die would be burdensome to their mothers. She alone should decide whether her baby lives or dies. Before voting "no" for a 2nd time in the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 5, 2002, Obama stated:

What we are doing here is to create one more burden on women, and I can't support that.

During a speech at Benedictine University in October 2004, Obama said, according to the Illinois Leader, that "the decision concerning a baby should be left to a woman, but that he does not see himself as supportive of abortion."

8. Wanting to stop live aborted babies from being shelved to die was all about politics. During that same speech at Benedictine University, Obama said, according to the Illinois Leader, "the bill was unnecessary in Illinois and was introduced for political reasons."

obama%20and%20baby.jpg7. There was no proof. Also during the Benedictine University speech, Obama said, according to the Illinois Leader, that "there was no documentation that hospitals were actually doing what was alleged in testimony presented before him in committee."

6. Aborting babies alive and letting them die is a doctor's prerogative. An Obama spokesman told the Chicago Tribune in August 2004 that Obama voted against Born Alive because it included provisions that "would have taken away from doctors their professional judgment when a fetus is viable."

5. Anyway, doctors don't do that. Obama told the Chicago Sun-Times in October 2004 he opposed Born Alive because "physicians are already required to use life-saving measures when fetuses are born alive during abortions."

4. Aborting babies alive and letting them die is a religious issue. During their U.S. Senate competition Alan Keyes famously said:

Christ would not stand idly by while an infant child in that situation died.... Christ would not vote for Barack Obama, because Barack Obama has voted to behave in a way that it is inconceivable for Christ to have behaved.

Obama has always mischaracterized Keyes' rationale for condemning Obama by implying Keyes was simply making a statement against Obama's pro-abortion position, which is untrue. Keyes pointedly stated he was condemning Obama for his support of infanticide.

Nevertheless, live birth abortion must be included in the list of procedures Obama condones. Obama responded first to Keyes by saying, as quoted in his July 10, 2006, USA Today op ed:

... [W]e live in a pluralistic society, and that I can't impose my religious views on another.

obama%20family.jpg3. Aborting babies alive and letting them die violates no universal principle. In the same USA Today piece, Obama said he reflected on that first answer, decided it was a "typically liberal response," and revised it:

... But my opponent's accusations nagged at me.... If I am opposed to abortion for religious reasons but seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.

2. Sinking Born Alive was simply about political oneupsmanship. Obama has this quote on his website:

Pam Sutherland, the president and CEO of the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council, told ABC News. "We worked with him specifically on his strategy. The Republicans were in control of the Illinois Senate at the time. They loved to hold votes on 'partial birth' and 'born alive'. They put these bills out all the time... because they wanted to pigeonhole Democrats...."

And the #1 reason Obama voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act was:

1. The IL Born Alive Infant Protection Act was a ploy to undercut Roe v. Wade. During a debate against Keyes in October 2004, Obama stated:

Now, the bill that was put forward was essentially a way of getting around Roe vs. Wade.... At the federal level, there was a similar bill that passed because it had an amendment saying this does not encroach on Roe vs. Wade. I would have voted for that bill.

This was an out-and-out lie. The definition of "born alive" in the federal and Illinois versions were identical. The only difference came in paragraph (c), which was originally identical in both versions but changed on the federal level.

Illinois' paragraph (c): A live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law.

Federal paragraph (c): Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being "born alive" as defined in this section.

When the senator sponsoring the IL bill tried to amend IL's paragraph (c), Amendment 1 below, to be the same as the federal paragraph (c), Barack Obama himself, as chairman of the committee hearing the bill, refused, and he then also killed the bill (click to enlarge).

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Comments

top 10 lists should be short. this column is way too long.

To the person that wrote,top 10 lists should be short. this column is way too long. Your comment and inability to read more then a paragraph at a time is one of the reasons why America is in the toilet.

Are you looking for a presidential candidate who is even more pro-life than Obama is pro-abortion? Ambassador Alan Keyes. Read Dr. Keyes' positions on abortion and other issues at www.alankeyes.com

YES, he is running for president, despite what you've been hearing (or not hearing) from the media.

Gabbie: heh. Don't you love anonymous critics?

Jill: great column. I can't wait for Fred Thompson to read it aloud during his debate with the naked Emperor in October.

"Christ would not vote for Barack Obama, because Barack Obama has voted to behave in a way that it is inconceivable for Christ to have behaved."

WE ALL BEHAVE IN A WAY THAT IS INCONCEIVABLE FOR CHRIST TO BEHAVE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

Lady,
Jesus would probably not vote for any of the candidates! And what does that ridiculous comment even mean? Jesus is not concerned about what candidate is 'God's candidate', He RULES. Not Bush or whoever becomes our next president.

Can you tell me what day our 'Christian, Pro-Life' president overturned Roe v. Wade? Can you tell me which Republican candidate promises to do so?
Can you tell me which Democrat candidate has said,"I like women getting abortions. Abortions are healthy and great!"

The propaganda that you and thousands of other spread about making abortion the central issue on who to vote for as president is nothing short but a lie. And we all know who the father of all lies is.

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Suzy Smith

Our "Christian Pro-Life" president did succeed in having partial birth abortion banned. Also look into his judicial nominations. These are important steps.

Why should abortion, especially late term/live birth as this blog post is about not be a central issue on who to vote for? I view these type of things as serious human rights issues that refuse the right to live based on the mother's opinion and relative position to her womb. Religion has nothing to do with it for me. I held these views even in the past when I didn't even believe any diety existed.

http://www.godlessprolifers.org/members.html

If we make a mistake with our laws, lets make the mistake that saves a life instead of destroys it.

I would not vote for Obama if he were the lat person on earth. He is not being truthful about who he is. Just in case you think I am racist, I voted for Jesse Jackson in the 88 primaries. I am voting, for the first time, for the Republican nominee, in the 08 election if Obama is the Democratic nominee. I have been a lifelong Democrat and I am fed up with that party.

Despite anyone wanting to offically call "viability", OBs and Neonatologist will confirm viability as early as 22wks old in the right facility, 24wks more common.

These Late term abortions (from 22 to 25wks gestation) are removing a 'fetus' from a womb and these fetuses can survive outside of it with some high tech medical care.

It is scientifically proven 'fetuses' feel pain in the womb as well.

Heartbeats are detected before most women know they are in deed pregnant.

There must be a defined point at which a woman may not choose to end the life inside of her. If a fetus can survive w medical care outside of the womb, that burdens the medical system and that child may not be 'perfect'. If that same fetus were born after 36wks and put up for adoption, since the mother clearly does not want the child, then the child probably would not need medical care or life long care.

It has nothing to do with 'religion', science can stand alone on this one. You don't have to have a faith in anything to accept scientific facts.

I too wouldnt vote for Obama. To tell you the truth i wish Colin Powell would run for president. I would vote for him in a heart beat. And also Arnold Schwarzenegger if he was legally able to. I think that a rule for presidency should be that you have to served in the military for at least four years to be eligable to run for canidancy.

Tabby the rule should be that you must have at least posted a comment in a blog about rules for presidency in order to run for president

At least he is honest about the logical outworking of abortion = infanticide.

Sad, sad, sad...

stop attacking obama. god endorses neither party.

theologica.wordpress.com

I posted this great article at my blog, www.trueobamafacts.com.

I am very grateful you took the time to organize this top 10 list, I posted a link to it in my blog.

Tabby, why would you vote for Colin Powell? His pro choice positions are well documented. He is no better in that regard than Obama!

God does support people, parties, ideas and beliefs. The entire purpose of the Old Testament from a christian's perspective is to show how God interacts with individuals, groups of people and Leaders. I do believe he supported certain leaders and lifted them up and lowered others. You make yourself sound silly when you say things like God doesn't support a party or learders etc. God does not support Obama. That man is cold and full of lies and deceit.

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