Osama and Saddam link proven by ABC News

It is amazing how much information there is out there that shows the Democrats and the news media contradicting themselves. This video is from 1999. It establishes a clear relationship between Osama and Saddam and it verifies at least one of the reasons we invaded Iraq. Judge for yourself.

So who lied? Who's lying now?

Comments

[American Patriot]

This video is PURE propaganda. Please do your homework fellow conservative. Bush and Bin Laden established a strong business relationship in the late 70's and then again in the early 80's in Texas, 1st with George H.W., then with George W. in his new Oil exploration corporation. Further, the Bushes joined forces with the Bin Ladens and started the Carlyle Group. George H.W. Bush was meeting with Bin Laden's brother on Carlyle business on 9-11 just blocks away from the Pentagon strike. The Bin Ladens were in the US the day of the attacks! This is real, not liberal lies. I am a full-fledged REPUBLICAN and have been so my entire life. The FBI aided the entire Bin Laden family, all 27 of them, on a charter flight out of the US AFTER 9-11. This is from written COURT documents and records on file retried via a FOIA request. You can read it for yourself and retrieve the FOIA'd documents via .pdf file right on the internet. The information is avaialble, the media simply choses to ignore it because they are co-conspirators to expand globalization of government and their own personal wealth and power.

Please do you homework, I beg you. The above video is pure hogwash and nothing short of propaganda to get the average dumb American monkey to buy into their BS.

I have been a lifetime republican and this twisted administration does NOT represent my lifelong republican views. They are scandalous, money grabbing thieves who exploits the Average American's patriotism to expand their own personal wealth.

Please do not be just another party puppet rallying behind the real enemy while sacrificing your brothers and sisters lives and giving away your every American rights and liberties in the process.

You are being manipulated and lied to. PLEASE, for the sake of our beloved America, please do serious non-partisan, non-biased research. We are losing everything our founding fathers fought so hard for - to protect their posterity - we are handing it to the globalist elite.

Bush signed an executive order on the 17th of July - you are NOW herewith living in a complete dictatorship. Read the order. You have no rights any longer.

I beg you to please wake up to the truth. Look for the truth, and don't disregard it. Get over the party line crap. This is not about political parties, this is about protecting our American Rights and Liberties.

God Bless the USA! Semper Fi!

[Former View Watcher]

Rosie, where are you? We need you back on the air! Stop this American Patriot stuff and get back out there and tell the world the truth. We can't trust anyone else but you!
Please Rosie, come back!

[Right Wing Thinker]

Eric, if this is what constitutes "proof" for you I hope you never serve on a jury.

The key statement at 2:02: "...with a price on his head, who else could [Usama] turn to other than another international pariah who wanted weapons of mass destruction, Sadaam Hussein?" is a QUESTION. It is not a positive statement that Bin Laden turned to anyone.

If you think saying the words 'Sadaam' and 'Usama' in the same sentence over and over means that there is a link, you've been reading the Frank Luntz memo. But it is not proof. It is not even evidence. It is meaningless and adds nothing to the body of knowledge or debate.

[ekyprogressive]

That is total Bull. First, let me say I agree totally with American Patriot. Second, Let me talk about the evidence. First let me suggest to the readers and the watchers of this propaganda piece to look at the Senate Intelligence Report, phase II, that shows there was no evidence linking Iraq and Bin Laden. Here is the link...

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/iraq.html

If you read it you will find out that Saddam and Bin Laden did not like each other, and that Saddam had a record of executing Islamic extremists. Now, that to the side, listen to members of the intelligence community, to the weapons inspectors, and you will learn that they knew, the charges of WMDs was false, the inspectors were on the ground and that Bush and the Neo-con criminals had intentions of invading Iraq before he even took office. They just needed something to get people behind the Idea. 9/11 gave them that, and they used it for their own personal goals

[Former View Watcher]

Oh wow, other Rosie fans! Who would have thought we'd find each other here on a right extremist rag!
Kum ba ya!

[ekyprogressive]

Who doesn't love Rosie? You have to be a communist to hate her...

[American Patriot]

The 9-11 Attacks were predicted in a LIVE Broadcast on July 25th, 2001, which is obviously prior to 9-11. Look at this clip of that broadcast. You CANNOT deny it's existence. He clearly states they will attempt to blow up airplanes and hit the World Trade Center a month and a half BEFORE 9-11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXJRg4Vh0kc

Do you honestly think that an independent Broadcaster has the capacity to investigate and research and know what is going to take place and that the American CIA and the White House were clueless?!!! Seriously.

The News Broadcaster in the video above called on fellow Americans to contact the White House and let them know that if there are terrorists attacks, the public knows they are responsible. Again, you cannot deny the prior knowledge and it's existence.

By-the-way, Former View Watcher, I can't stand Rosie O'Donnell and I've never watched her show. In fact, I don't watch television and haven't for almost two decades. I supported Bush in both election and since I was 18 years old (many, many moons ago), have voted Republican in every election.

The 2nd greatest threat to the American Republic is the monopoly press and their spitting spewing propaganda and mind control techniques. They flood the American network news with untruths and lame entertainment. They want you to be a stupid monkey.

Are you aware of the election scandal currently taking place? Do you understand the voter caging issue and what has transpired because of it? Did you know the voting scandal was uncovered in 2004 by well-known BBC News Reporter Greg Pallast? Ask yourself WHY you have not heard anything about this. Ask yourself why this grave threat against your democratic voting rights is NOT being covered by the mainstream media?

Those who try to hide the truth do so because they have something to hide.

[American Patriot]

Former View Watcher, debating is the American way, so there is certainly nothing wrong with your difference of opinion, however; your crude bully approach to oppress and crush someone with an opposing view without a shred of evidence supporting your claims supports my claim that you are being manipulated and lied to and are following the pied piper right off the edge of a cliff. STOP insulting as a means of debate and use your intellect to debate the topic in a diplomatic way. If you've got evidence that conflicts with evidence that has been presented here, please offer it up so we may examine it and discuss it in an effort to find the truth for all Americans. The goal is to protect our disappearing Republic and pass this country to our children so they and their children may live in a free and prosperous environment as well. It a good and very worthy cause, similar to that of our founding fathers of this great nation and is certainly not one to be stomped on and obliterated. You wouldn't have the rights you have now if our founding fathers didn't stand up to your type of tyrannical opposition. I am fighting for the rights and liberties of every single American citizen and you are protesting that?

Who the heck is the monkey?

[Former View Watcher]

Holy cow, AP, you're obviously experiencing Rosie withdrawal syndrome. It's painful, I know, but there is hope. We can meet at places like this and continue to tell the world how right Rosie is about Bush's lies and how our whole world's destruction is his fault. It'll be okay. I have it on fairly good sources that she's being considered for the Homeland Security Director job if Hillary is elected. Rosie says she likes Barack better, but she's meeting with Hillary secretly to set up a regime that will overthrow this horrible Bush fiasco. We'll be fine.
Can we keep in touch here? Let's all plan to meet tomorrow at 9:00 am CST. When Rosie used to be on the View. . .

[American Patriot]

You are a weak American, Former View Watcher. I pray that our military personnel and warriors never drop to your level of existence for they are the only ones now that can save this Republic from it's dictator impostures. The future of this nation is in their hands.

God Bless the USA and our Republic.
Semper Fi!

[Eric Wallace]

Propaganda for whom? ABC is hardly an instrument of the right. Is it a propaganda piece for Clinton? This story was done in 1999 while Clinton was chasing Osama.

The "proven" part is some what tongue-in-cheek. One video does not make an ironclad case. But it does call into question the MSM quickness to jump from one side of the debate to the other. This video clearly suggests a connection to Saddam. It also suggests a motive for working together long before the Bush administration started proclaiming the same thing.

You guys need to stop talking out of both sides of your mouth. You make no sense. The lies are neck deep and they are coming from the otherside of the isle for political purposes.

You can't have it both ways. You can't say Bush lied when everyone was saying the exact samethings before he even came to office. The story about Osama and Saddam was already circulating. Congress was already talking about what a threat Saddam was. Hillary herself is quoted connecting Osama with Saddam. But I forgot let's not worry about facts.

But if you want to believe the lies go right ahead. For when you reject the truth the only thing left is a lie.

By the way if you want voting scandal one need only check out Cook county. But that is a topic for another day.

[American Patriot]

Bill Clinton is an illegitimate great-grand child of Rockefeller. The Clintons and the Bushes are tied at the hip as are the Bushes and the Bin Ladens.

Col. Donn De Grand-Pre who was a top Military official who was an arms trader for 10 years and has authored 3 large books stated clearly that 9-11 Was a Cold Coup D'etat. Here is a quote from an interview with him in 2004: "It wasn't an overnight thing. You see, as I outline in book 1, and I carry that on in book 2, as well as book 3, we were on the verge of a military coup d'etat. And this was long in the planning and even after the 78 days of bombing Kosovo, it became critical. And we were close to a coup d'etat at that time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots who worked with that, a coup was a possibility. In fact, a coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of September 11th. Only it was an administrative or what we call a cold coup d'etat." ... "Well that is correct. And as we delved into that, we found that the culprits, including Rumsfeld, were part of a neocon group that had been planning this thing for literally years prior to September 11th." ... "Okay, I've got three books out, Alex, under the title, "Barbarians Inside the Gates." Book 1 was "The Serpent's Sting," Book 2 is "The Viper's Venom," Book 3 which just came out is "The Rattler's Revenge." And I'd like to quote from Book 2, which came out October of 2002. There is a very important paragraph there. It says, "The trigger for the 911 activity was the imminent and unstoppable world-wide financial collapse which can only be prevented temporarily by a major war, perhaps to become known as World War III. To bring it off one more time, martial law will probably be imposed in the United States.""

You can call the Colonel at his home 540-547-2996 (google his name and you will see the phone directory listing if you don't believe me).

The Colonel indicates that flight 93 was shot down as a DIRECT VIOLATION of the STAND DOWN order that was issued which is WHY fighter pilots did not take out the 2nd plane before it hit the tower. They had plenty of time to take out the plane that hit the 2nd tower but there was an active STAND DOWN order from Dick Cheney - they were ORDERED to not intercept those planes. Air Force pilots out of the North Dakota Air Guard called the Happy Hooligans, (the Air Guard flying the F-16s) were ordered by their superiors (against Cheney's stand down order) to take that plane out. And they took it out from 9:35 to 10:00.

Before you attempt to debate, give the good Colonel a call and or read his book/s.

Here is a link to the radio interview where quotes from above were taken: http://www.prisonplanet.com/290204degrand.mp3

Patriot, if Bush meets with Bill Bennet does that tie him to brother Bob Bennet? or vice versa.

Osama is not necessarily connected with everything other Bin Ladens do. For that matter, there is no proof that Dubya is necessarily connected with everything H.W. does; or vice versa.

As far as Sadam goes, the problem is distinguishing between "Osama", "Al Kaidea" and "911". It is clear that Sadam met with, and allowed some "Al Kaidea" training in Iraq. But there is no proven direct link with either Osama or 911.

People on both sides are sloppy and equate three separate things.

[American Patriot]

Whomever posted above, you have not done your homework and that is apparent based upon your response. Please research it, extensively, you will discover that the events leading to 9-11 began with a coup in 1933. You will also discover that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of George W. Bush, was a top official in Hitler's regime before coming to the US.

google "The Whitehouse Coup" and start from there.

After you understand and familiarize yourself with that incident, google Bohemian Grove and have a peak at what your top global electives are participating in - you will be shocked.

Then conduct solid unbiased research on the falling of the twin towers (this will require extensive research for you will have to research steel and temperatures associated with bending steel along with open air fires and the temperatures associated with those types of fires, as well as buildings that have collapsed and the manner in which they collapse. A plane just smashed into a steel building in Rio last week...great resource).

Then research the construction of the World Trade Center Towers and how the were "specifically" designed to take hits from multiple jet airliners and not fail.

Learn about controlled demolition and how it works. Check out what thermite is.

Take a look at the association with Republican Senator Henry Hyde and Rahm Emanuel. Learn about the association of Clinton with Emanuel. Look up name Andrucetti, and Kingsbury apartments where the drug/cash trade took place. Chicago PBS broadcast a one hour series on this at the time. Check out out a local Chicago high profile news reporter whose crew were under cover and filmed Henry Hyde making a large money exchange for drugs transaction but her superiors at the station REFUSED to broadcast it. She quit because of the corruption.

Take a look at the court documents of the FBI files that were released a short while ago that shows the FBI allowed Bin Laden's entire family out of the country after 9-11. Bin Laden himself is claimed to have been on the plan but that is still under dispute, and that is another issue itself.

After about 12 months of solid research looking at "all" the information involved, you will come to the same understanding as I have. All of these incidents are intertwined and connected.

The Chicago region may be the next target in the VERY near future for a "staged" terrorist attack. Our dollar is in severe jeopardy and the economy is teetering on collapse. The only way to rescue it (due to poor economic practices for all because of selfish greed for the few), the only way to rescue it (temporarily) is through war. Crude Oil will be $100/barrel within 2 mos. They need an excuse to go to War with Iran, maybe through Israel.

Go back and research history for it is apparent that you lack sound understanding of the concepts, functions, and economic practices of the elite within our government. Understanding the web of what has been created by the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Hunts, etc., is paramount to understanding the function deep within the corruption at the top tier of our government.

Were you aware that the security firm that managed the World Trade Center had a complete power shutdown the entire weekend prior to 9-11, that means no cameras, no checks? Were you aware that the bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the World Trade center just 5 days before 9-11. Do you know who was CEO of the security firm that did this? None other than Marvin Bush, George's little brother. He resigned the day before 9-11.

Before you attempt to debate, please take the time to do your homework. Debating is a great way to gather new information and new insights but it is an absolute waste of time to debate with ignorance (lack of knowledge). That is akin to a debate with your 12 year old on why it is important that they do their homework in order to pass the class.

Like Rudy, you've been given a reading assignment. You're both very far behind on your homework yet you try to stomp out intelligence with brash ignorance. That approach makes the people of our country stupid.

The NYPD and the NYFF vehemently oppose Guiliani. Find out why. Watch the video the Firemen made 2 weeks ago about 9-11. While you're at it, ask the fireman (or just read the 700 reports available) what happened on 9-11.

My goal is to educate my fellow conservatives. I've seen far too many good conservatives blindly following the pied piper into very treacherous waters and that makes me very sad, for they've given up their ideals and convictions of conservative policy to trot alongside and administration that has not a true conservative bone in their body. While you are researching, learn about the true values and principals of the republican party and trace it back to it's roots so you may be a wise conservative and a true republican, not like these impostures that are leading this once great party down the path of destruction. This party is almost to the point of no return. Wake up fellow conservatives before you become nothing more than just another piece of the network that brought this party to it's own demise.

I am a republican despite your mean efforts to ridicule me because I stand firm in my convictions and true conservative beliefs by not conforming to these ludicrous, less than republican ideals as this sad administration demands of you. Be a true American. Be a true Republican Conservative and do what is right for the people of this country; your fellow Americans. You must first know what you are doing and know what is happening and going on in order to have the capacity to do what is right.

If you are a true Republican Conservative, then you will see the truth after you make the effort to look for it.

[American Patriot]

Whomever, I apologize for not answering your questions directly in my reply above. Here they are.

No, just because one person meets with another does not make them tied that that person's sibling. However; I merely provided cliff notes of cliff notes to get one on the path of looking for the truth. Those tid-bits of information provided were an effort to give someone a head start on their research. They must locate the bulk of the information themselves for that is the only way a person who is so adamant about conforming to another's demands of them will ever be open to the conflicting truth; they must see it for themselves on their own of their own free will. One who doubts the information I am offering has a preconceived notion of what to expect and therefore will never make the effort to look. Moreover, little tidbits spark curiosity which is the driving force behind the need for information. That information contains the whole truth, one must only look for it.

Have a good day. :)

re: "Do you honestly think that an independent Broadcaster has the capacity to investigate and research and know what is going to take place and that the American CIA and the White House were clueless?!!!"

Unfortunately yes. The White House only knows what the CIA, etc tell it. Unfortunately the CIA was too busy from Nov2000 to Sept 2001 protecting their institutionalized bureaucracy from reform to do their job. Apparently the CIA is still in the same self-protective mode, leaking fragments of intelligence out of context with the sole motivation of protecting the status quo inside the bureaucracy.

How it impacts the world seems incidental to how it impacts the bureaucracy.

[American Patriot]

Whomever, another apology. I apologize for this statement, "You're both very far behind on your homework yet you try to stomp out intelligence with brash ignorance. That approach makes the people of our country stupid."

It is clear that you did not take that
approach. It appears that I was on the defensive from the other brash remarks. Again, my apologies for my error.

[American Patriot]

----"RE:re: "Do you honestly think that an independent Broadcaster has the capacity to investigate and research and know what is going to take place and that the American CIA and the White House were clueless?!!!"---

Unfortunately yes. The White House only knows what the CIA, etc tell it. Unfortunately the CIA was too busy from Nov2000 to Sept 2001 protecting their institutionalized bureaucracy from reform to do their job. Apparently the CIA is still in the same self-protective mode, leaking fragments of intelligence out of context with the sole motivation of protecting the status quo inside the bureaucracy.

How it impacts the world seems incidental to how it impacts the bureaucracy."

I cannot agree with that as a whole for things are much deeper than than. Cheney controls that aspect of it as did Bush Sr. when he was president. The CIA exists merely as White House henchmen throughout the globe, t make it brief without an in-depth discussion of how, who, what, where, when, and why.

[Jerry]

AP, or is it Rosie? Your assertions of generations-long conspiracies and the related ramblings have long been the sole province of the Moonbat Leftists, so forgive us who view you as mentally unstable and deceitful in your representations.

It's just a knee jerk response. Surely you can relate to that?

[American Patriot]

I cannot relate to another individual who cannot provide data or evidence to support their purported claim such as yours (that mine is false).

I'm not a leftist despite to continued attempts to stimy my data. You are a classic NEO-con puppet who is rather clueless to ways of the world. you are by no means a true conservative and I highly doubt you could offer up the true history of the republican party yet alone understand it's inherent philosophy.

You've not proven anything except that you are a bully.

I wish you speedy intelligence.

Semper Fi!

[justin]

This is funny...so now if you're against the war you get called "Rosie." Name calling is such fun, you on the right should know, you've mastered it.

This video proves nothing...and the fact that there were, lets see I've lost count, 10 different reasons why we went to war should scare all of us.

Eric is blind and can't see what's really happening...not surprising.

BUSH LIES = THOUSANDS DIE

[Cory]

If there is one thing most folks here seems to agree on it's the laughable credulity of this blog. We take it with a very large grain of salt and rightly wonder what the folks at Illinois Review are smoking out in those cornfields. The writers here seldom miss an opportunity to make utter fools of themselves . This blog has about as much credibility as the smut spewed across the walls of public toilets --- but it's always good for a reality check as to the senility and dementia of many in the Freedom Party who are the self-anointed sacred cows of hearsay, rubbish and downright beauty shop gossip. To American Patriot! Thanks! How wonderful to hear one of our own disabuse the gullible herd of their chosen ignorance.

[American Patriot]

For what it is worth, I do not support "hate" or "despise" in politics. We cannot ever understand peace and compassion if we are constantly bickering.

This is not about Bush; it is about the United States of America and what is best for the people of this nation. This is about protecting the Constitution of the United States and individual rights that accompany it for all Americans.

This is about peace and prosperity for all. This is about Freedom and the American way of life.

God Bless the USA.
Semper FI!

[American Patriot]

Voter Caging and the corruption in the republican party to manipulate the vote in the 2004 election has FINALLY made it to American news. Watch and weep fellow republicans. This is real. This broadcast was on PBS NOW This past Friday, the 27th, 2007.

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/330/index.html

[Eric Wallace]

Give me a break AP. I watched the video it is over the top in its allegations about suppressing black votes. It is also contradictory. Some of the greatest support for BUsh came from the military. Why would the GOP target military vote a la Gore?

There is no crime in trying to ferret out ineligilble voters Dems and Reps do it all the time. They need the program here in Illinois. Talk about voter fraud. The Dems have perfected it in Chicago and surrounding burbs.

Lastly, The thought that the GOP was targeting African Americans in Ohio is a Joke. Ken Blackwell, an African American was running for governor and was expecting a high turnout for his candidacy. It thus makes no sense to target a group you have been mining for support.

Therefore, their accusations are ludicrous. Yeah they were trying to cut out voter fraud. Yes they where going after Democrats. It just so happens that a lot of democrats are minorities.

Democrats have been getting away with voter fraud for years (IL). It is time the GOP did something.