Froehlich not to change parties

A rumor that's been hotly circulating Republican circles this week is that State Rep. Paul Froehlich is getting ready to announce he's becoming a Democrat. 

The reason the rumor has been spreading so quickly is that, well, from Froehlich's perspective, one could make a compelling argument why he should become a Democrat:

• He would avoid an expensive Republican primary challenge
• He would avoid an expensive Democratic general election challenge
• He would be in the majority where he would benefit from the bennies of being in an organized, effective party that wins elections and majorities in the Illinois General Assembly
• He would have the opportunity to hold committee chairmanships, something reserved only for those in the majority
• He would have a growing number of friends in his district as Democrats make greater inroads into Schaumburg Township.

But, alas, Paul just confirmed that the rumor is not true, that he is a Republican and will stay a Republican.   He believes in Republican principles and has no intention of abandoning a wayward, rudderless party, however appealing the siren song may be.

He also is fairly sure that no Cook County Republican will be supporting a tax hike of any type in the General Assembly.

You heard it first here on Illinois Review.com . . .

Comments

[george wright]

Too bad he isnt changing...

[Bill Baar]

No, it's good he's staying...I like the column he wrote on the GOP and civil rights. Progressives turn their backs on police abuse in Chicago and the GOP should really be running with the issue. It must be some weird legacy in the party from tough-on-crime, law-and-order days and it's crying shame because it's Democrats presiding over some appalling abuse of civil rights in Illinois.

[Rick Biesada]

"He believes in Republican principles."

This seems a little hypocritical, being that Brother Froehlich, Bob Smith's spiritual advisor, likes to quote scripture when referring to the rule of law pertaining to immigration policy; albeit, wrong scripture, being that the Catholic Catechism that he quotes from, and doesn't understand, states; "to welcome the stranger, unless he places a burden on the host."

His pandering and co- sponsorship of HB 1100 ( the unlawful and fraudulent bill to grant drivers license certificates to illegal aliens, a boone to the financial and insurance industry)should disqualify him from holding further public office.
He violated his oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution, and the Constitution of Illinois, ( Article 13 Section 3 Illinois Constitution) by defying Federal Law he has shown a proclivity to perpetuate anarchy against the people.

Brother Froehlick has proven consistantly that he belongs in the Democratic,or Green, Party, as he shows contempt for the party of Limited Government, Personal Responsibility,
Lower Taxation, and the Rule of Law.

Froehlick illustrates the primary reason why the Republican party of Illinois can't win an election, it is mirred down with RINO's and Liberal stooges who think that they have to compromise conservative principles to compete with the Marxist mindset of the Liberals.
Brother Froehlick does not represent the Republican party platform, nor does he honor his oath of office, so it shouldn't take a lot of brain work for the people to decide where Froehlick should go.

I hope civilian life treats him well. Perhaps he can enter the Convent, in either case, the Chicago Minutemen will help him leave office.

[pete speer]

Of course Rep. Froehlich is not leaving the party. His whole organization is a group that believes in Republicanism. They are why he wins. Theya re not going to defect with hime -- should he go --to the Democrats.

To be sent into exile, Paul will have to be defeated on his own turf.

[Gary Karlin]

I as a conservative and registered Republican can not always agree with all the opinions on the board, but I will say this, Illinois is in trouble. It is in 106 Billion in debt and climbing, gross receipts tax and property tax swap ideas are on the table. I'm going nuts lately shooting off emails and making calls to wherever these bills are house or senate.

To answer your concerns Rick, I don't like the illegal alien problem either. I must say too, that I'm not undermining your fight for what is right. Looking at the whole (conservative) picture in Cook County, Froehlich has the most conservative voting record out of any house member in Cook County and I can agree with him 90%+ of the time (Sorry Paul, I can't agree with the Illegal Immigrant thing).

One thing I've learned in grass roots is something called leverage. You can not build a rapport with someone by name calling or comming across angry, or even have them support you 90% of the time. If I were in elected office and I heard someone call me liberal or RINO (which I'm neither), I would refuse to meet with you and wouldn't listen to anything you have to say.

Now to address the concerns liberal or RINO, no Paul is neither. He stood up to Tom Cross, House Republican Leader on a recent Embryonic Stem Cell bill and took a pro-life stand and passionate debate. This is something that he's very passionate about, yes, I said pro-life. Froehlich can not bring himself to vote for domestic partnership or gay marriage bills. So you tell me Rick, knowing what you just learned about Paul, seeing that overall he is the most conservative house member in Cook County, he should go? It is not enough to have someone that you can agree with on 90% of the issues, we must have an unrealistic 100% agreement on the issues before that government official has your blessing?

[Paul Froehlich]

Rick writes that "Brother Froehlich... likes to quote scripture when referring to the rule of law pertaining to immigration policy; albeit, wrong scripture, being that the Catholic Catechism that he quotes from.."

I don't quote Catholic Catechism. Most Christians find Scripture their authoritative source. Here are some clear Biblical admonitions:

“When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.”
-- Leviticus 19:33

“Do not oppress an alien; you yourselves know how it feels to be aliens, because you were aliens in Egypt.” -– Exodus 23:9

“Cursed is the man who withholds justice from the alien…” --Deuteronomy 27:19

“Do not mistreat or do violence to the foreigner, the orphan or the widow.”
--Jeremiah 22:3

Rick brought this subject up. If he can find some Biblical admonitions to the contrary, he should do so. I won’t hold my breath.

As far as HB 1100 is concerned, it fully complies with the federal Real ID Act, which permits states to issue drving certificates under certain conditions. In fact, HB1100 exceeds the security requirements in the federal law but does not change the legal status of any resident.

[Carl Segvich]

Dear Paul Froelich,

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I say to you as I say to any liberal, "You are either stupid or evil". That's just putting it bluntly, as their are sub-categories to this theory in our culture war as it pertains to you liberals. You are giving the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA away.
So either 1) you know it and are evil or
2) you're just dumb, naive, etc.
Now, You may want to talk about Egypt and Leviticus etc., but that's where your liberalism or enlightenment or whatever, runs amok. Those references don't consider the crack cocaine of 2007 nor the seperately sound sovereign rights and sovereign states of say, oh, Mexico and the U.S.A. These are 2 beautiful countries, along with MANY OTHER beautiful countries in GOD'S beautiful world. Guess what? Everyone can't come to Daley and Blagojevich's Chicago....or L.A., Miami,etc. Every people must fight their own battles. I.E., everybody must fight their own CORRUPT POLITICIANS, just as we must fight the mafia of Daley, G.Ryan, Obama, Thompson, Blagojevich, the Kennedys,et al. We must fight Bush's refusal to protect our country!

I suspect you may know everything I'm already saying.

The bottom line is the beautiful Mexicans (just got back and they are the most unpretentious,warm people I've met; perhaps I'm biased because they are Catholic) must fight the few corrupt families there that run that corrupt government. They must clean up their home! They must not invade my home! That is so simple to understand.

You want Biblical ?! I'm not, unfortunately well-read here, but , I bet you never heard of : Render unto Caesar what is Caesars. Now did you? Obey the laws of other nations. Better yet, obey the law. Best yet, RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

( I don't mean to call you dumb or evil. I don't know your heart. However this entire ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION topic is a topic in which even a dummy like me can understand )

Sanctuary cities? ARE WE NUTS? Newsome, Daley, Bloomberg et al should be imprisoned awaiting trial for TREASON.

P.S. This may all be about S.P.P. and the new world order and combining Can-Mex-USA.

P.P.S. $$$ The love of money (and power) is the root of all evil. $$$ -- Timothy

Carl "conservative soldier" Segvich

[Carl Segvich]

Dear Paul Froelich,

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I say to you as I say to any liberal, "You are either stupid or evil". That's just putting it bluntly, as their are sub-categories to this theory in our culture war as it pertains to you liberals. You are giving the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA away.
So either 1) you know it and are evil or
2) you're just dumb, naive, etc.
Now, You may want to talk about Egypt and Leviticus etc., but that's where your liberalism or enlightenment or whatever, runs amok. Those references don't consider the crack cocaine of 2007 nor the seperately sound sovereign rights and sovereign states of say, oh, Mexico and the U.S.A. These are 2 beautiful countries, along with MANY OTHER beautiful countries in GOD'S beautiful world. Guess what? Everyone can't come to Daley and Blagojevich's Chicago....or L.A., Miami,etc. Every people must fight their own battles. I.E., everybody must fight their own CORRUPT POLITICIANS, just as we must fight the mafia of Daley, G.Ryan, Obama, Thompson, Blagojevich, the Kennedys,et al. We must fight Bush's refusal to protect our country!

I suspect you may know everything I'm already saying.

The bottom line is the beautiful Mexicans (just got back and they are the most unpretentious,warm people I've met; perhaps I'm biased because they are Catholic) must fight the few corrupt families there that run that corrupt government. They must clean up their home! They must not invade my home! That is so simple to understand.

You want Biblical ?! I'm not, unfortunately well-read here, but , I bet you never heard of : Render unto Caesar what is Caesars. Now did you? Obey the laws of other nations. Better yet, obey the law. Best yet, RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

( I don't mean to call you dumb or evil. I don't know your heart. However this entire ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION topic is a topic in which even a dummy like me can understand )

Sanctuary cities? ARE WE NUTS? Newsome, Daley, Bloomberg et al should be imprisoned awaiting trial for TREASON.

Evil is a reality.

P.S. This may all be about S.P.P. and the new world order and combining Can-Mex-USA.

P.P.S. $$$ The love of money (and power) is the root of all evil. $$$ -- Timothy

Carl "conservative soldier" Segvich

[Paul Froehlich]

Carl: Is one bill/one issue enough to earn someone the Liberal label? Or are you willing to consider a number of issues that have been important to most conservatives such as guns, gay rights, abortion, stem cell research, library porn filters, taxes, ERA and so on? Suppose you agree with the legislator on all those issues, but disagreed on the driver certificates. Does that make him stupid or evil?

[Rick Biesada]

Awe, come on fellas, you're picking on me again.
Gary saddened my day by admonishing me about being nice to politicians, but Brother Froehlich brightened it by quoting more scripture.
Thanks Paul, now I won't have to go to services today, now I can devote more time to running you out of office.

Allow me to explain something to you neo cons which just may straighten out this Republican party in Illinois.
I really don't care if I meet with any of these public servants or not, as long as they govern in the interest of the people.
If they don't, then they will meet with me one way or another.

First and foremost, I care about the rule of law. If our elected officials would govern within the parameters of the Constitution, we wouldn't have all of the problems that they create by promulgating fiat law.
For a nation at war our entire existence is tied to the rule of law. Granting special privileges to illegal criminals is a breach of our national security, and it compromises our democratic process.

It is commendable that Representative Froehlich is pro life, as well as scientifically qualified to debate stem cell research, but I am from the conservative school of thought that believes that government should be limited in scope, and only spend what is necessary to run the governments essential business.
Protecting the people is the governments primary responsibility, not stem cell research, or foreskin research for that matter, which seems to be our legislators favorite past time as of late, besides violating the Constitution with impunity.

I really don't take you guys serious, so don't hold your breath waiting for me to stop showing righteous indignation over a politician who violates the public trust. I could write a book on this subject but you guys would read all around the important precepts and villify me for calling some big 250lb.foot ball player goof, a name out of disgust for his malfeasance in office.

The word illegal has a clear and defined meaning. It means unlawful-- prohibited.

Article 13 section 3 of the Illinois Constitution is clear and well defined. The public servant before being installed in office swears to, or affirms, that he will uphold the US Constitution and the Constitution of the state Illinois.

To me, this is all that matters, everything else is superflurous.
I know Ken is well meaning, I understand his philosophy of agreeing with somebody 90% or 80% of the time but not on matters of national security. Ronald Reagan embellished the concept of agreeing with a politician 80% of the time... but he was an actor.

Paul Froehlich the actor, wants us to believe that his unlawful bill; HR 1100 conforms to the Department of Homeland Security's Real ID Act. This is a fallacy, the Real ID act won't take effect until 2010 if it takes effect at all, because more and more states are taking measures to block the initiative. States don't have the money to comply with it's provisions, and some states just consider it a repugnant law.
Homeland Security, I'm impressed, they are the most corrupt and inefficient cabinet in effect. No wonder why a pandering politician would want to hide behind the DHS, it's akin to Bill Clinton hiding behind Janet Reno's skirt.

As far as Brother Froehlich holding his breath about me reciting scripture, other than thou shall not steal... our sovereignty, hold your breath Paulat your own risk.
You're right, I won't bother, I have more important things to do, such as researching material to sue politicians individually for their personal assets, when an American citizen is harmed by an illegal alien through the negligence or reckless disregard of the law by public servants who allow them to reside in the United States with impunity.

Tell us your excellency, it's not about scripture is it? It's about pandering to the corrupt special interest groups who have been raping and plundering the tax payers of this state for years. It's about the lust for power and greed, so don't chastise me for showing a little righteous indignation at a politician who sits in breach of his oath.

The US Constitution is inviolable... I rest my case.

[Paul Froehlich]

If HB1100 is so clearly unconstitutional, as Rick insists, then won't a court challenge strike the bill down as such? In which case there's no need to fight it in the legislature because surely some judge will grasp what is so obvious to Rick, right? Not every judge is stupid or evil.

BTW, the Real ID Act is in effect. States have until 2010 to come into compliance. HB1100 is in compliance.

[Rick Biesada]

" If HB 1100 is so clearly unconstitutional won't a court challenge strike the bill down?"
here is a perfect example of a slick politician letting his alligator mouth overload his canary azz.

Yes it will, just like the court challenge that will seize the personal assets of negligent legislators who govern with reckless disregard for our laws.

The bigger question, Brother Froehlich, is why do our legislators defy Federal law and waste tax payer dollars taking fiat cases into a court to be judicated?

The next big question is why are you in violation of your oath? You have defyed your oath according to Article 13 Section 3 of the Illinois Constitution, placing you in jeopardy of impeachment now that your daddy George Ryan is out of office heading towards the fudge farm.
You and your cohorts are in direct violation of federal laws: United States Code Title 8 Section 1324 for aiding, abetting, encouraging and inducing illegal aliens to reside in the United States with impunity, as well as Section 274 of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1996 which will place liabilty on legislators if an American citizen is harmed by an illegal alien who was encouraged to reside in the United States through legislation in reckless disregard for the law.

Brother Froehlich, as you well know, we need a test case to be brought before the judiciary to test the constitutionality of the proposed legislation.
If I wore my attorneys cap, I would go into Judge Stickey Fingers court room and recite Marbury v. Madison which cites "an act of legislation repugnant to the constitution is void.
If our laws are in conflict than Federal law takes precedence, that's the reason for the Supremacy Clause in the US Constitution, so now state legislators can't hide from excercising their sworn duty.

Enforce the law, don't confuse it by rewarding criminal behavior.

BTW / The Real ID Act has been postponed until 2010, read my above posting, states can not afford to get into compliance.

[Bob Schmidt]

Rick,
Where in the Constitution is there a penumbra on "illegal aliens" ?

My constitution has a category called "persons" that refers to everyone with God given Rights. Sub-categories "natural born citizens" , "naturalized citizens" and persons who are neither of the above. The Constitution gives Congress the power to set laws for how a person not a "natural born citizen" can become a "naturalized citizen". Nowhere in the Constitution is there mention of a distinction between non-citizens who are legal or illegal, eligible or ineligible for citizenship.

When my ancestors landed on the shores of Pensylvania in the early 1800s there was not INS/ICE. There were laws prohibiting the immigration of prostitutes, vagrants, murderers, robbers, etc. All foreigners who entered the USA were innocent til proven guilty of being undesireable.

We should go back to that. If 1 million of the 12 million illegals are undesireable, then we should focus on them and deport them. A big government program to focus on 12 million is pure big government and not small-government conservative.

[Don Castella]

Bob,
When some of my ancestor families landed at Philadelphia in 1737-1738, they had to take an oath of allegiance to then King George V. Illegal aliens are citizens of and bear allegiance to a foreign government, not the United States of America. hence they have not made themselves "subject to the jursidiction of the United States".